A Gallup poll shows that Americans are overwhelmingly in favor of either Creation or Intelligent Design as opposed to evolution.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/21814/evoluti鈥?/a>
Evolution Dogma has everything going for it that any religion could possibly want:
1. It's tax-funded and mandatory curriculum in every government indoctrination center - even despite latest scientific findings that contradict the presented evidence.
2. It's been the mandatory curriculum for multiple decades.
3. It has the corner on the market for all major Cable TV networks
- National Geographic
- History Channel
- Discovery
- Nova productions
- PBS, CNN, ABC, NBC
- BBC
4. It's bolstered repeatedly in Movies, especially kids movies, such as Ice Age.
5. It's the "only credible, peer-reviewed" dogma of origins allowed by "the scientific community"
6. It has the support of major religions, such as Catholicism
...all this and yet still and over-whelming majority of Americans still favor some sort of creation/ID. Supposedly, in Europe, they've all seen the light and embrace evolution (which is far from true - I live in Italy).
What are we missing? What are we doing wrong? What can we do to finally stem the tide so that the majority of Americans wake up to the "truth" of evolution?Evolutionists:The American People are not convinced! What more can be done?
I think what's happened is that people have become more fully aware of the impossibilites of evolution theory. That's exactly what good education is supposed to achieve--to get people to think for themselves and not simply ingest what the schools promote without question. Question everything. Never accept anything on blind faith.
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I love when evos talk about 'the evidence' as if they actually knew of some. They simply spew what they've been force-fed in school as if a robot--and as if what they've learned is true! (See the aforementioned paragraph.)
And they condescend to believers, accusing us of not thinking! D'oh!
No - people haven't become more fully aware of anything - they just lack the capacity for critical thinking. I'm being truthful not condescending when I surmise that neither the asker nor the answerer have a clue what evolution really is....
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Evolutionists:The American People are not convinced! What more can be done?Don't worry about it. As public education in the US gets better creationism will eventually phase out.
The major issue is, I think, that parents are telling their kids that evolution isn't real but when they get to school, as long as their teachers aren't religiously biased (in which case why are they teaching biology?) then they'll learn to drop their parent's ridiculous teachings.Evolutionists:The American People are not convinced! What more can be done?
Evolution has nothing to do with Creationism/Intelligent Design. The two concepts are completely compatible. Perhaps most Americans confuse evolution with the Big Bang Theory or maybe even Abiogenesis. Maybe the vast majority of my fellow Americans just need to actually read the Theory of Evolution before ignorantly answering questions regarding its validity/compatibility with Creationism/ID.
After looking at the poll, I would have to say they need to have a option D,
I believe Man, and everything else, was created perfect, and what we have now is a degraded, and diseased version far away from what was meant to be.
And I know personally having heart problems for my whole life, my body is not perfect.
i love it sister when you make these hardened rebels eat humble pie.
the Most Mighty once said, "and you shall know the Truth and He shall set you free..."
some of those who think they will wait until all the whole world accepts their sinful doctrine as legit will wake up like the people of Noah's age.
keep it up sis!
Those numbers show a gradual decline in absolute creationism. Wait for the younger generations to grow and have children and YEC membership will plummet.
One main thing about these types of discussions bothers me... what I have come to accept is that one human being can help another human being without knowing what the other human being believes.
It is not up for a vote.
We need to start shaming uneducated and willfully ignorant people.
Lack of education for one.....
Pay your taxes, to make sure our nation's public education systems are adequately funded.
Education, again and again ... and I believe slapping them like you'd do to dogs might make them use their brains for once ... just an idea!
Wait.
....Cool!!!
Nothing can be done, I'm afraid. We appear to be lazy and Creation seems to be easier to accept for some people.
It's obvious that the asker herself had problems with basic science education, for her question embodies the true problem - scientific illiteracy.
What are we missing?
"...politics and culture, as much as educational deficiencies, are the reasons we live in a society that is so science-challenged..."
"The reason for the failure of American schools isn鈥檛 education policy鈥搃t鈥檚 the fact that American culture doesn鈥檛 value intellectual achievement."
"We've arranged a global civilization in which most critical elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster" Carl Sagan, 1996
What are we doing wrong?
"As for dealing with rampant misinformation 鈥?refuting it is certainly important, but in the end this does only so much good if people have a powerful political or social reason to cling to their beliefs and if they have easily available arguments to throw in the face of scientific consensus."
Despite its importance to economic growth, environmental protection, and global health and energy issues, scientific literacy is currently low among American adults.
- Only 53% of adults know how long it takes for the Earth to revolve around the Sun.
- Only 59% of adults know that the earliest humans and dinosaurs did not live at the same time.
- Only 47% of adults can roughly approximate the percent of the Earth's surface that is covered with water.*
- Only 21% of adults answered these first three questions correctly.
- Only 2% of the American population understands how scientific theories are developed and tested.
- Only 23% are minimally able to explain the nature of scientific study.
- Only 9% of Americans can give a reasonable answer to the question "what is a molecule?
- Only 21% can reasonably answer "what is DNA?"
What can we do to finally stem the tide?
"Denunciations from across an intellectual battlefield go only so far 鈥?the harder work involves talking to people, understanding the sources of their misconceptions, and figuring out how to move them to better ground. It won't be easy, even then, to change minds. Humans cling to beliefs ferociously, because they are a core part of our identities. But that itself is precisely why we have to understand what makes people tick, and figure out where the real blocks to accepting science are."
Why America is flunking science
http://www.salon.com/env/feature/2009/07鈥?/a>
American Adults Flunk Basic Science
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/200鈥?/a>
Why American Schools Are Failing
http://www.hereticalideas.com/2008/09/wh鈥?/a>
Lifting the scientific veil
http://books.google.com/books?id=WEM4hqx鈥?/a>
Evolution!
http://books.google.com/books?id=QtAVHhr鈥?/a>
its simple really those who are ignorant and closed minded even to those things which are indisputable must be exposed for the fools they are.
not to worry christianity continues to be on the decline and has less members each day, give it a generation or two and humans will no longer be fooled by such archiac and outdated belief systems
sir not appearing in this movie that is exactly right they could have a stack of indisputable evidence thrown at them and it wouldnt help
ROFL did you actually look at the data? The 'overwhelming majority' certainly don NOT support young earth creationism. Look at the first graph on the page - 36% back God guided evolution, 14% back atheistic evolution - that adds up to 50%, then you have 44% who believe in young earth creationism.
Intelligent Design is not given as an option - the question asks if they believe humans developed over millions of years from less developed life forms, with guidence from God - that my dear is theistic evolution - not intelligent design.
EDIT%26gt;%26gt; This poll is much more revealing - check out the education level of those who don't accept evolution.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/114544/Darwin鈥?/a>
Edit%26gt;%26gt; Bruce you should have another look. 36% whom you claim back your ideas are theistic evolutionists - I know from talking to you previously that you reject theistic evolution - therefore at best you can claim 44% who back your beliefs.
Edit%26gt;%26gt; How sad it is that the asker of this question resorts to insults when challenged. Not very Christ like is it? I know that you didn't mention young earth creationism directly, however your belief in it is implied in your question. You did mention Intelligent design, which I have demonstrated is not supported by the poll.
You state '... the overwhelming majority of Americans still favor some sort of creation/ID...' That statement is complete rubbish. As I demonstrated 50% of Americans according to your poll support evolution (either theistic or atheistic), 44% support creation. the poll didn't adequately address ID. Therefore perhaps it is you who needs to brush up on your literacy skills.
Why do people feel the need to attack others because they don't agree with them on unimportant things? You and I share a belief in Christ, yet for some reason that isn't enough, and you feel the need to attack me. How sad that your relationship with God is so fragile that you feel compelled to lash out if someone puts forward an idea that doesn't match your own perceptions, for fear of being proven wrong. If you have a strong faith then you have no need to lash out with insults, because you are able to calmly put forward your point of view - without snide, sarcastic questions, and insulting responses.
You are in my prayers. God bless.
Interesting survey: 80% say God created man, but only 14% buy into the Darwinist claim that man evolved from bacteria by a mindless, purposeless unguided process of fortuitous mutations.
Probability is the Achilles' heel of human cognition, but it seems that the public is thinking more clearly than the government-media-educationist monopoly. You don't get new limbs or organ systems of irreducible complexity by mutation, and if somehow a creature defied insurmountable odds and did so, you don't find another creature with the same mutation at the same time with equal heritability for mating.
The probability approaches impossibility that inanimate matter somehow created DNA molecules incoding volumes of information for metabolism and reproduction. You only get information from an intelligent designer.
In a way, I'm not surprised that the government-media-educationist monopoly is getting few converts to the atheist creation myth. In real science, theories survive by accounting for evidence explained by competing theories rather than by shouting them down.
Cheers,
Bruce
The funny thing is the people who refuse scientific evidence to go on Biblical Dating. The earth is around 4.6 billion years old, scientifically positively. Many people say because of Bible dating it is only 11,036 years old. Ignorance at its best.
Goes for evolution too. People don't care about the gradual change in a species that we can see with million year old fossils. They don't care about frozen specimens where a gradual change in DNA has been found. All they care about is what their book of fairy tales/the Bible says.
when religious imbiciles stop pushing lies about modern science.
when reality tv is taken off the air in favor of better programming.
the people that are intelligent enough to watch and understand the channels and shows youmentioned are only intelligent because they read other books as children besides the bible-
those stations and books are only reaching the learned, not the moronic masses.
want a look into the future of the world?
watch the dark comedy Idiocracy, its a very likely the reality of the future of the world based upon the reproductive rates of intellectuals vs morons.
europe will not be immune.
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